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Kicad – Power-on-reset

UPDATE: 20220728 Added POC

The workshop at MCH2022 gave me the idea to make my next PCB not at home, but professionally.

I’m planning to make my 6502 on modular PCB’s when i’ve got the base part working.
( I probably will only make THT (Though Hole Technology) boards instead of smd )
So i’ll probably end up making a few boards, namely:

  • Power on reset
  • Clock module
  • Interconnect with arduino
  • CPU, memory and ROM
  • Display
  • 6522 Via
  • SID chip
  • Hex keyboard

This power-on reset is based on the original C64 part to reset the CPU when you power the machine on. With my 6502 i have to manually push reset to start booting.
(The CPU starts in a unknown state when you power it up, it needs a reset)

Schematic
PCB design
Rendering

Working POC

6502 and Arduino (due to missing components)

(Work in process, will certainly change)

Due to eeproms being scarce, i’m going to use a arduino as Rom emulator.
Below is a test setup i’m going to build.

Made the drawing in Kicad.

KiCad is a free software suite for electronic design automation. It facilitates the design and simulation of electronic hardware. It features an integrated environment for schematic capture, PCB layout, manufacturing file viewing, SPICE simulation, and engineering calculation.

Memory assignment:

$8000-FFFF - Rom
$4000-7FFF - Ram ?
$2000-3FFF - Multiple times the 6522 *
$0000-???? - Ram probably

* This is due to the fact i am only using Address lines: 0,1,2,3,13,14,15

Mystery Cartridge C64

As posted before, i found a cartridge in my collection a while ago. I don’t know where i’ve got this one from.

While searching on the internet for more information, i really couldn’t find anything about it.
Not even on collectors sites.

Where did it come from, what does it do?

It says: Data Manager 64 (1984) , Softworld and Handic.

I can find many cartridges by Handic. I’ve checked all database/filers i could find. Non looked like this.

Next to try ..
Dumping the cartridge to file. Probably by changing the way the C64 starts a autostart cartridge.
So i have to modify the cartridge port, and put a cross connection on the lines EXROM and GAME, this will change the memory addresses ($8000/$A000) where a cartridge is placed. Then the commodore will start normally, and i can dump the cartrige memory locations to a file.

So pins 8 and 9 have to be switched around.
The C64 autostarts a cartridge when it find certain data on $8000

Meanwhile i try to contact some collectors of cartridges.

I don’t think its a homebrew, but we will see.

Mini C64 for MCH2022

Cool little C64 gadget for MCH2022

Next week i’ll be going to May Contain Hackers 2022, what to bring?
My old friend Bigred will be there, many others couldn’t make it …

What to bring and do:

  • Laptops
  • Arduino touch project?
  • My new 6502 breadboard computer?
  • The DVB-T / DAB / FM stick
  • Besides the emulators on my laptop, maybe i’ll bring this little thing
    (Or a real C64?)

Booting in 4 seconds!
Running Vice in 50 or 60 Hz
Low latency video!
Can emulate cartrides, floppy’s
When you connect joysticks or a real C64 keyboard to the GPIO pins it will use that.
SID sound using ReSid
CRT emulation
(look for BMC64 or combian)

C64/6502 and Assembly

I’ve used a basic program on C64 in the past and a Cartridge machinecode monitor in the past.
I’ve really forgotten how, what i’ve used and what i’ve done with it.
Not nearly as much as my friends at that time.
I started with a Vic-20 and played around with machinecode on a 6502.
I didn’t have a C64 for many years.

I’ve recently started to build a 6502 computer again, and programming on 65xx again (Generic 6502 and C64). (2022)

Below is my setup on linux, to write assembly code, compiling and running the code in a emulator.

I have installed the Acme compiler and Vice as a emulator.
Both can compile/run machinecode for multiple computer emulations. So maybe i can run my old Vic-20 machine code or the few C64 programs i’ve written.

I’ve only made the bash script, the included asm files i copied from someone on the internet. ( Credit lookup )

makeprg bash file:

#!/bin/bash
set -x
f=""
if [ "$2" == "f" ] ; then f="-fullscreen" ; fi 
if [ ! -f $1.asm ] ; then
cp template.asm $1.asm
fi
vi $1.asm
acme --cpu 6510 --format cbm --outfile $1.prg $1.asm
if [ ! $? -eq 0 ] ; then exit 1 ; fi 
c1541 -format foo,id d64 $1.d64 -write $1.prg
if [ ! $? -eq 0 ] ; then exit 1 ; fi 
x64 $f $1.prg 

template.asm

!source "basic-boot.asm"

+start_at $0900

; Set background and border to black
ldx #$00
stx bgcol
stx bocol

; Flicker border and background
.loop
  inc bgcol
  inc bocol
  jmp .loop

basic-boot.asm

; A BASIC booter, encodes `10 SYS <address>`.
; Macroified from http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=6541

!source "constants.asm"

!macro start_at .address {
  * = basic
  !byte $0c,$08,$00,$00,$9e
  !if .address >= 10000 { !byte 48 + ((.address / 10000) % 10) }
  !if .address >=  1000 { !byte 48 + ((.address /  1000) % 10) }
  !if .address >=   100 { !byte 48 + ((.address /   100) % 10) }
  !if .address >=    10 { !byte 48 + ((.address /    10) % 10) }
  !byte $30 + (.address % 10), $00, $00, $00
  * = .address
}

; A cooler example is to write
;
;   10 SYS <address>: REM <backspaces>Your comment
;
; When the user types LIST, he will just see
;
;   10 Your comment
;
; but still be able to run it.
; For this, see http://codebase64.org/doku.php?id=base:acme-macro-tu

When running above bash script. it will open the file if it exists, else it will take a template file.
After opening it with vi, and editing it, it starts a the compiler and creates a C64 d64 disk.
This is going to be autorun/started with the VIce emulator.
Appending -f to the bash script will start it in fullscreen mode.
./makeprg myawesomedemo.asm -f

Below it is running without the fullscreen option. but is shows how to start the interactive monitor in vice.

  • n – step x instructions
    n 100
  • m monitor
(C:$103e) m
>C:103e  cd 12 d0 d0  fb a2 00 bd  5c 10 bc 79  10 88 d0 fd   ........\..y....
>C:104e  8d 20 d0 8d  21 d0 e8 e0  1d d0 ec 4c  81 ea 06 00   . ..!......L....
>C:105e  0e 06 0e 0e  03 0e 03 03  01 03 01 01  01 01 03 01   ................
>C:106e  03 03 0e 03  0e 0e 06 0e  00 06 00 07  09 09 09 09   ................
>C:107e  09 09 09 07  09 09 09 09  09 09 09 07  09 09 09 09   ................
>C:108e  09 09 09 07  09 09 09 09  00 00 00 00  ff ff ff ff   ................
>C:109e  00 00 00 00  ff ff ff ff  00 00 00 00  ff ff ff ff   ................
>C:10ae  00 00 00 00  ff ff ff ff  00 00 00 00  ff ff ff ff   ................
>C:10be  00 00 00 00  ff ff ff ff  00 00 00 00  ff ff ff ff   ................
(C:$10ce) 
  • d -assemble
(C:$1041) d 1000
.C:1000  78          SEI
.C:1001  A5 00       LDA $00
.C:1003  8A          TXA
.C:1004  98          TYA
.C:1005  8D 20 D0    STA $D020
.C:1008  8D 21 D0    STA $D021
.C:100b  A0 7F       LDY #$7F
.C:100d  8C 0D DC    STY $DC0D
.C:1010  8C 0D DD    STY $DD0D
.C:1013  AD 0D DC    LDA $DC0D
.C:1016  AD 0D DD    LDA $DD0D
.C:1019  A9 01       LDA #$01
.C:101b  8D 1A D0    STA $D01A
.C:101e  A9 39       LDA #$39
.C:1020  A2 10       LDX #$10
.C:1022  8D 14 03    STA $0314
.C:1025  8E 15 03    STX $0315

Etc .. see https://vice-emu.sourceforge.io/vice_12.html

New 6502 DIY computer

Started with a new Micro computer project.

Update: 20220721 .. VIA chip installed
Update: 20220801 .. changed layout, addressing and added rom, see below post.

Such a influencial little processor … Apple, Vic-20, C64 (with modifications), PET, BBC Micro, Oric, Atari and Nintendo.

Another (big brother) influencial CPU is the 68000.
(Amiga/Atari ST/ Macintosh/Sinclair)

I’ve made a 680x computer in the past, and i want to make another one.

This one will be based on a 6502, because i used to program on this cpu when i got my Vic-20.

Goals of this project:

  • 6502 Cpu
  • Memory and Rom
    • Rom must contain a good machinecode monitor
  • Adjustable clock
    • Now using Ben Eatons clock diagram, but i will move this to a programmable arduino, with a display which shows the clock rate
  • Hex keyboard ro program the machine, just like picture below
  • Display which was a resolution of at least 640×480
    • It will be a slow screen, character printing and a gfx mode?
    • First probably a SPLC780 HD44780, so i can enter/edit machine code.
  • Hopefully using a SID chip
  • Hardware monitoring of the address and data lines like movie below
  • Programming via serial/usb, by halting the 6502 cpu and pushing data into memory or fake-eprom with a arduino
    • Save/restore by modifying memory
  • Small
Example of Hex keyboard

Update 20220721

Via chip is on the board.
For now i’m using a old display, like this one

I was planning to use this one

The graphic capable 12864 display (128 x 64 pixels)

I will reuse the schematics i’ve used for the 680x computer. (Posted above)

Update: 20220801

Added ROM, and changed layout.
Every breadboard has a function now.

Upper left, Ben’s Clock module (this is going to be changed to a arduino with display which shows frequency)
Upper right, power-on reset (Reused part of C64 schematic)
Second row left, the 6502
On the right the ROM, RAM i also going to install here.
3rd Row, Address decoding, this is going to be a dynamic setup using dip switches and a eeprom for decoding (i know, this kind of decoding is slow, but i don’t need speed), on the right probably the hex keyboard with its own 6522.
4rd row left, a temporary display 16X2 connected via a 6522. Here i want to have a graphical display.
4rd row right (not started this part yet) a sound device. SID or a Yamaha sound chip i still have.

Commodore day

Update: 20220514 – Vic Graf cartridge and more

One Vic-20 working ( switched some keyboards and chips around )
Something i made in 1984? .. then the fuse in my vic-20 power blew (250v 160mA)
Another Vic-20 – with a Bad U31 (Oscillator)? or Vic video chip?
Vic Graf Cartridge, graph a function with annoying sound

Manual : https://archive.org/details/VIC_Graf_1982_Commodore/page/n11/mode/2up

I’ve got a load of cartridges, some of them i tested:

  • Vic-20 – Super expander plus 3K ram ( also some draw and sound functionality in this one )
  • Vic-20 – 32K Ram expander (switchable)
  • Vic-20 – 3K expander
  • C64 – KCS power cardridge
  • C64 – Final Cartridge III
  • C64 – Data Manager 2 – Data Base, hard to find information on this one, will post later on this one.

C64 and SD2IEC

As posted before ( https://www.henriaanstoot.nl/2022/04/09/c64-plus-drive-running-again/ ) i’ve got a little gadget which emulates a C64 diskdrive.

The SD2IEC connected

I’ve been using this for a while now, and i’m really impressed by it. It just connects to the Serial Din of your C64, draws power from the Cassette port. … And even looks like a mini drive!

I’ve been converting Disks to images as well as runnig previously converted D64 images on a real C64 again.

Also the internet provides loads of images to run again.

Converting and running:

  • For real floppy to image i used a empty image file. Made my real original drive device number 9, and used Dracopy (also below)
  • Image running on your real C64, just put a D64 disk image on your SDcard.

There is a disk selector and run program you can use. (See below)
Also you can use the buttons for disk swap/change.

FB64 tool to select a D64 image to start
Dracopy